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		<description><![CDATA[Walk into a building with a pool and you can instantly tell it’s there by the smell. In the past few years, a lot of research has defined what causes this smell, what effect it has on swimmers, and what can change the creation of DBP’s so the pool becomes a “you don’t know there is a pool until you see it” experience. ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<h2 style="text-align: center;">Swimming Performance and Disinfection Byproducts:  Biocides, Biofilm and PoolNaturally<sup>®</sup> Plus</h2>
<p style="text-align: center;">By David Knighton MD</p>
<p style="text-align: center;">Co-Founder and CEO of Creative Water Solutions and PoolNaturally<sup>®</sup> Plus</p>
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<p><strong>Introduction</strong></p>
<p>Walk into a building with a pool and you can instantly tell it’s there by the smell.  No matter how big the building, small the pool, or robust the heating and ventilation system, that characteristic “chlorine” smell is there.  If you are like me, a few minutes of exposure to the smell will bring tightness to my chest, itching to my eyes, and after about 20 minutes a light headed feeling.  Go outside and it all goes away in about an hour.  Swim and it can take days to return to normal.  Competitively swim or swim daily and you probably get so used to the air you become acclimated to the irritation of disinfection byproducts (DBP).  In the past few years, a lot of research has defined what causes this smell, what effect it has on swimmers, and what can change the creation of DBP’s so the pool becomes a “you don’t know there is a pool until you see it” experience. <strong> </strong></p>
<p><strong>How are DBP’s formed?</strong></p>
<p> DBP’s are formed when chlorine, bromine or any halide molecule used to kill bacteria in the water, combines with biologic molecules that contain carbon and nitrogen.  The most prevalent molecule in the swimming environment is urea from urine and sweat.  Urea undergoes chemical changes in the pool and combines with chlorine or bromine to form over 30 different DBP’s.  Some of these molecules stay in the water and others are volatile so they diffuse into the air above the water and eventually into the entire building.  The act of swimming actually increases the concentration of DBP’s by churning up the water and increasing the concentration of these molecules in the air. </p>
<p><strong>What Effects do DBP’s have on people?</strong></p>
<p>We know a lot about the effect of one DBP – chloroform – since it was the most commonly used anesthetic for decades.  The fancy name for this class of DBP is trihalo-methane (THM).  There are many different THM’s with different effects on people, just like there are many different types of DBP’s that have different effects on people.  We will look at chloroform and trichloronitrate.</p>
<p>Chloroform inhaled at a concentration of 10,000 ppm puts you to sleep.  Prolonged exposure at this very high level will kill your liver, depress your heart function and kill you.  In human volunteers, exposure to 4,100 ppm causes serious disorientation and 1,000 ppm causes dizziness, nausea, fatigue and headaches.  Prolonged exposure to as little as 10 to 200 ppm can cause liver enlargement and effects on the central nervous system.  For a reference, we have measured THM concentrations in commercial indoor pools in the 2 – 3 ppm range. </p>
<p>Application of chloroform to the skin causes redness of the eyes and itching of the skin.  One study of people exposed to low levels of chloroform in their drinking water showed a correlation between chloroform concentration and rectal and bladder cancer.  In fact, an international health agency classifies chloroform as a carcinogen for humans.</p>
<p>Other studies, especially from Europe, document the effect of trichloronitrate on swimmers.  They conclude that this DBP is related to reactive airway disease or asthma in people who swim frequently.  Another study shows that DBP’s are associated with changes in DNA in urinary bladder cells that correlate with an increased risk of cancer.</p>
<p>To summarize, DBP’s not only smell bad, they irritate your skin, eyes and lungs; cause central nervous system changes such as dizziness and headaches; cause fatigue; and with prolonged exposure are potential carcinogens.</p>
<p><strong>How do DBP’s affect swimming performance?</strong></p>
<p>Any athletic performance is determined by muscle contraction.  Muscle contraction is an energy consuming activity that is related to oxygenation of the blood and blood flow to and from the contracting muscle.  Oxygen is used along with blood delivered nutrients to produce energy so the muscle cells can contract and propel the swimmer through the water.  Oxygen is delivered to the blood through the lungs as we breathe.  Oxygen is then carried by our red blood cells to all tissues in our body including muscles, by blood flow.  Blood flow depends on our heart to pump the blood and arteries to carry that blood to our exercising muscles.</p>
<p>At rest, our muscles require very little blood flow and oxygen.  As we start to exercise and use our muscles to propel us through the water, they consume all the oxygen and nutrients in the area, then tell their arteries to dilate and send more blood.  That causes our hearts to beat faster to supply more blood for the dilated arteries and that eventually causes us to breathe faster to deliver more oxygen to our lungs.  A big part of athletic training, is to maximize this energy transport system from air to muscles.  The more we exercise, the better the system works.  The better the system works, the more we can exercise.</p>
<p>DBP’s affect performance in a number of ways.  First, the air just above the water is what a swimmer inhales during swimming.  That air has the highest concentration of DBP’s.  The amount of oxygen in air follows the rules of physics.  The higher the concentration of DBP’s, the fewer oxygen atoms in the same amount of air.  So the swimmer in a pool with high DBP’s needs to move more air in and out of their lungs to remove the same amount of oxygen as a swimmer in a pool with lower DBP’s.</p>
<p>DBP’s like trichloronitrate cause lung irritation and narrowing of the tubes that bring air into our lungs.  Because of the narrowing, less oxygen gets to the microscopic areas of our lungs where the delivery of oxygen to the blood occurs.  Therefore, we need to move more air to extract enough oxygen for our exercising muscles.  One result of this lung irritation is the use of drugs, called bronchodilators, that open up the airways and others, that control the inflammation caused by the irritating DBP’s.  This asthma is a significant problem in many competitive swimmers.</p>
<p>Like most diseases, some people are more sensitive to DBP’s than others. <br />
Those swimmers who are sensitive to DBP’s have to work harder to provide adequate energy for their contracting muscles than those who are less sensitive to DBP’s irritation.</p>
<p>Performance and conditioning is all about maximizing oxygen extraction from the air, blood flow to the muscles, and removal of waste products from the exercising muscle.  DBP’s play a significant role in oxygen concentration in the air; delivery of air to the blood, and pumping of blood to the muscles.  Along with the other health effects of chronic exposure to DBP’s and the uncomfortable irritation they cause, swimmers should do everything possible to minimize the concentration of DBP’s in their pools.</p>
<p><strong>What can swimmers do?</strong></p>
<p>Since urea is one source of nitrogen containing bio-molecules that form DBP’s, swimmers can reduce their formation by not urinating in the pool.  Sweat is another source of urea that cannot be easily controlled since training causes increased sweating.  I’ve talked to many competitive swimmers who tell me they don’t want to stop their training to go to the bathroom to urinate or that their coaches won’t let them take a break.  Changing this would help create a more healthful environment for every swimmer, coach, lifeguard, and spectator.</p>
<p><strong>What can facilities can do?</strong></p>
<p>Ventilation</p>
<p>To understand the role of ventilation in this problem, we need to remember that DBP’s are at their highest concentration on the surface of the water.  This is the boundary layer where there is little air movement.  Traditional ventilation brings outside air inside, warms it up or cools it off depending on the temperature, and then moves it through the building, eventually pushing the air back outside.  This is a very expensive process.  Moving more air from the outside and through the entire space of the natatorium doesn’t address the area of the pool where DBP’s are in their highest concentration.  Increasing the air movement at the surface of the pool does result in a decrease in the concentration of DBP’s.  Paddock Evacuator Company’s Chloramine Evacuation System achieves this by a system that moves the air across the boundary layer and moves it outside.</p>
<p>Water treatment</p>
<p>Water disinfection and formation of DBP’s is a classic “rock and a hard place” situation.  Chlorine and bromine are very effective and efficient killers of swimming (planktonic) bacteria and algae.  They accomplish this through their chemistry.  They are very reactive with other atoms and molecules.  This reactivity oxidizes proteins and sugars in the cell wall of bacteria and algae, but also reacts with carbon and nitrogen containing compounds to form DBP’s in the water and air.   It is the main way we control bacterial growth in most water systems.  Even treatment systems, such as salt pools, control bacterial growth with chlorine.  You don’t have to add the chemical, a reactor in the pool creates bio-reactive chlorine from the chloride ion in common salt.</p>
<p>When we started treating commercial pool water with PoolNaturally<sup>®</sup> Plus we found that the air quality in the pool area improved in a couple of days and the air in the entire facility was significantly improved after a week of treatment.  Over time our customers starting saying that the only way you know there is a pool in the building is to see the water.  Swimmers, coaches, lifeguards, and pool patrons all reported less eye, skin, hair, and lung irritation.  After a swim meet in one of our pools, many swimming teams demanded that their facility add PoolNaturally<sup>®</sup> Plus.</p>
<p>To measure the effect of PoolNaturally<sup>®</sup> Plus on DBP concentration, we did a study with a fitness club to measure the THM in the air above the pool surface and the water in their two indoor pools (75,000 and 86,000 gallons).  We measured levels weekly, for two weeks before PoolNaturally<sup>®</sup> Plus was introduced and then about every other week for 33 weeks. They have a high bather load and use chlorine for disinfection.  We measured a steep decline of THM in the water resulting in 75% reduction in 33 weeks.  In the air above the pool the chloroform concentration was decreased by 55%.  The air quality improved just like in our other indoor facilities.</p>
<p>How does PoolNaturally<sup>®</sup> Plus affect DBP production?</p>
<p>The quick answer is we don’t know.  We do have a hypothesis.  PoolNaturally<sup>®</sup> Plus is made from Sphagnum moss leaves.  In our laboratory, over the past 8 years, we have shown that PoolNaturally<sup>®</sup> Plus inhibits biofilm formation.  Biofilm is a slime like substance that protects bacteria that adhere to the pool or filter surface.  In fact, most bacteria prefer to adhere to a surface and cover themselves in biofilm, than to swim unprotected in the water where chlorine can kill them.  We think the unique environment inside the biofilm helps convert urea and other organic compounds into DBP’s.  We postulate that inhibiting biofilm reduces the production of DBP.  The product could also have a direct effect on the DBP produced in the pool.  We know the concentration is significantly decreased.  We don’t quite yet know how.</p>
<p>PoolNaturally<sup>®</sup> Plus and swimming performance</p>
<p>We know competitive swimmers like training in water conditioned with PoolNaturally<sup>®</sup> Plus.  We know that swimmers with asthma report that they don’t use their inhalers when they swim in outdoor or indoor pools where water is treated with PoolNaturally<sup>®</sup> Plus.  We also know that lifeguards and aquatic professionals report fewer respiratory problems working around pools with PoolNaturally<sup>®</sup> Plus.  We don’t know if their training and eventual performance is improved, and it will take time and study to know if the reactive airway disease, DNA changes and other health effects of DBP’s are improved.</p>
<p><strong>Summary</strong></p>
<ol>
<li>Use of chlorine and bromine as disinfectants in pools produces disinfection byproducts that have significant health and performance effects.</li>
<li>DBP’s, such as chloroform, other THMs and trihalonitrates irritate people’s eyes, skin, lungs, and central nervous system.</li>
<li>Pool water conditioned with PoolNaturally<sup>®</sup> Plus reduces the “chlorine smell” in treated pools and resulted in a 75% decrease in THM in commercial pool water and 55% reduction in natatorium air.</li>
<li>Patrons of pools treated with PoolNaturally<sup>®</sup> Plus report significantly less eye, skin and lung irritation.</li>
</ol>
<p><strong>References</strong></p>
<p>Articles about asthma and chlorine:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1747493/">http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1747493/</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.pslgroup.com/dg/2076de.htm">http://www.pslgroup.com/dg/2076de.htm</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.erj.ersjournals.com/cgi/content/abstract/19/5/827">http://www.erj.ersjournals.com/cgi/content/abstract/19/5/827</a></p>
<p><a href="http://swimming.about.com/od/allergyandasthma/a/cl_pool_problem.htm">http://swimming.about.com/od/allergyandasthma/a/cl_pool_problem.htm</a></p>
<p><a href="http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0CYP/is_13_111/ai_111200649/">http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0CYP/is_13_111/ai_111200649/</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1626429/">http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1626429/</a></p>
<p>Chloroform and effects on humans:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.osha.gov/SLTC/healthguidelines/chloroform/recognition.html">http://www.osha.gov/SLTC/healthguidelines/chloroform/recognition.html</a></p>
<p>THMs and bladder and colorectal cancer:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.biomedcentral.com/content/pdf/1477-3163-3-2.pdf">http://www.biomedcentral.com/content/pdf/1477-3163-3-2.pdf</a></p>
<p>More about Paddock Evacuator Company’s Chloramine Evacuation System:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.paddockevacuator.com/about_evacuator.html">http://www.paddockevacuator.com/about_evacuator.html</a></p>
<p>More about Creative Water Solutions’ PoolNaturally<sup>®</sup> Plus system:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.cwsnaturally.com/commercial.php">http://www.cwsnaturally.com/commercial.php</a></p>
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		<description><![CDATA[A species of sphagnum moss, found in bogs adjacent to lakes across the globe that has been cleaning and clarifying water for eons, is now known also to significantly improve air quality in swimming pool facilities by reducing the amounts of disinfection by-products (DBPs) in the water and volatile organic compounds (VOCs) in the air. ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Creative Water Solutions (<a title="http://www.cwsnaturally.com/" href="http://www.cwsnaturally.com/">www.cwsnaturally.com</a> — CWS) announced October 19<sup>th</sup>, 2011 that it has filed for a patent under the heading —<em>Use of Moss to Reduce Disinfectant By-products in Water Treated with Disinfectants</em>.  The patent will cover all of its products that use the moss-based water treatment, including PoolNaturally<sup>®</sup>, PoolNaturally<sup>® </sup>Plus, SpaNaturally<sup>®</sup>, and SpaNaturally<sup>®</sup> Plus.</strong></p>
<p><img class="size-full wp-image-486 alignleft" title="Male Swimmer" src="http://www.cwsnaturally.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/Male-Swimmer.jpg" alt="" width="258" height="227" />After a 33-week scientific study of two large, commercial indoor swimming pools in the Twin Cities area, CWS measured the levels of DBPs and VOCs and the impacts of the resulting from the use of Sphagnum moss. The test found that its sphagnum moss product, PoolNaturally Plus, dramatically reduced DBP and VOC levels, reducing odor, decreasing chemical smells and their unpleasant side effects on swimmers, lifeguards, maintenance and other staff.</p>
<p> DBPs are created in pool systems through the chemical reaction of the chlorine disinfectant with organic matter in a pool, or spa. Many DBPs are toxic compounds, such as trihalomethanes (THM) and halocetic acids, and are the main source of the odor and health issues associate with pool facilities and use.</p>
<p>“Our tests found significant DBP reductions and air quality improvements, clearly establishing another significant benefit of the PoolNaturally-Plus system.  THM’s, such as chloroform, are created in the water and then move into the air of a facility. The demonstrated reduction of THM’s in the pool water correlates nicely with the reduction of chloroform in the air and the subsequent increase in air quality” says Vance Fiegel, CWS’s Chief Scientific Officer and co-founder. “Our data shows that besides reducing the amount of chemicals needed to treat water (and lessening irritants to swimmers, maintenance time and corrosion of motors and liners) the moss is also providing measureable air quality benefits:</p>
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<li><strong>THM levels plummeted between 73-80% once the moss was introduced into the pools. </strong></li>
<li><strong>Chloroform showed a 55% reduction in the air of the pool facility.</strong></li>
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<p><strong> </strong> According to Dr. David Knighton, MD, CWS President, CEO and co-founder, the scientific data reflects the anecdotal reports the company has consistently been receiving from management and staff at other indoor swimming pools.</p>
<p> “We are very excited to discover yet another benefit of this miracle plant and innovative water conditioning agent,” Knighton notes. “Our customers at many college pools and those at indoor water parks like Chaos, located in Eau Claire, Wi., can corroborate our most recent scientific discoveries about air quality enhancement with the personal evaluations and experiences of those who work daily in an enclosed swimming environment.”</p>
<p>Knighton cited a representative case study recently done at Chaos with Barry Thompson, a retired Navy Master Chief who helped design the facility and currently is its chief operator:</p>
<p>·         <strong>At most water parks, chlorine disinfection by-products permeate the air at a park’s indoor and outdoor areas: “You can usually smell the heavily chlorinated water in the parking lot. At Chaos you don’t get that smell inside or outside — or on your clothes and in your hair after you leave,” Thompson says.</strong></p>
<p>·         <strong>Lifeguards are reporting a dramatic reduction in headaches from chloramines and disinfection byproducts due to the reduced usage and the increased efficacy of chlorine to deal with bacteria producing agents and organic material in the water.</strong></p>
<p>·         <strong>The lifeguards and other staff are reporting less absenteeism thanks to a more natural, less chemical work environment.</strong></p>
<p>For more information — or to interview Vance Fiegel or Dr. Knighton — please contact Martin Keller, Media Savant Communications Co., 612-729-8585, <a title="mailto:kelmart@aol.com" href="mailto:kelmart@aol.com">kelmart@aol.com</a></p>
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		<description><![CDATA[Creative Water Solutions is proud to announce its involvement and support of the Debbie Meyer Swim School Makeover Project. Check out the exciting makeover at the Debbie Meyer Swim School and all the various energy savings that can be achieved by applying current knowledge and the latest technologies to maintain superior water clarity and sanitation]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Creative Water Solutions is proud to announce its involvement and support of the Debbie Meyer Swim School Makeover Project.</p>
<p>Check out the exciting makeover at the <a href="http://http://www.debbiemeyerswimschool.net/sponsors.html">Debbie Meyer Swim School</a> and all the various energy savings that can be achieved by applying current knowledge and the latest technologies to maintain superior water clarity and sanitation</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[This last summer we added our Sphagnum moss pool product to the Highland Park Aquatic Center in St. Paul.  We treated two pools.  One was a 430,000 gallon Olympic pool and the other was a 22,500 gallon children’s activity pool.  You can read about the results on our website. One lesson we learned involved cyanuric [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p style="text-align: left;"><img class="alignleft size-full wp-image-149" style="margin-right: 10px; margin-bottom: 10px;" title="cws_pool_family" src="http://www.cwsnaturally.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/cws_pool_family.jpg" alt="cws_pool_family" width="200" height="133" />This last summer we added our Sphagnum moss pool product to the Highland Park Aquatic Center in St. Paul.  We treated two pools.  One was a 430,000 gallon Olympic pool and the other was a 22,500 gallon children’s activity pool.  <a href="http://www.cwsnaturally.com/about/news.php">You can read about the results on our website</a>.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">One lesson we learned involved cyanuric acid, outdoor pools, and chlorine.  The accepted dogma is that cyanuric acid is <strong>required </strong>for outdoor pools and spas to <strong>stabilize </strong>the chlorine against UV degradation.  In fact, most granular or solid chlorine sold in stores is <strong>stabilized </strong>with cyanuric acid.  Dichlor and Trichlor have cyanuric acid in the formula.</p>
<h2 style="text-align: left;">When cyanuric acid interferes with chlorine</h2>
<p style="text-align: left;">We started to try and understand the chemistry and science of cyanuric acid because of its side effects.  Cyanuric acid above a certain concentration (which is dependent on pH) inhibits chlorine’s (hypochlorous acid to be precise) ability to oxidize bacteria.  Failure to oxidize means no killing.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">We also found that cyanuric acid is denser than water so it sinks to the bottom of a body of water.  Therefore, the level of cyanuric acid on the surface of the pool or spa is the lowest level in the pool and it increases from there to the bottom.  It will be the highest in the deepest part of the pool.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">We tested this at the Olympic-sized pool.  We sampled water at the bottom, middle and top of the pool.  The cyanuric acid was set for 40 ppm.  At the surface the level was 30-40 ppm, in the middle it was 60-70 ppm and at the bottom it was 100 ppm.  <strong>From the middle of the pool to the bottom <em>hypochlorous acid was essentially ineffective</em>.</strong></p>
<p style="text-align: left;">The other fact about cyanuric is that it is nonvolatile.  That means as you add more and more to your pool or spa the concentration continues to increase.  The only way to decrease the concentration is to empty some water and replace it with fresh water without cyanuric acid so you dilute out the chemical.  In places where the spa or pool is full all year long, the concentration of cyanuric acid can increase to the point where the pool has no effective chlorine.  I think this is why most pools have algae outbreaks starting in the bottom of the pool.  The high cyanuric acid levels inhibit hypochlorous acid so no killing of algae occurs.</p>
<h2 style="text-align: left;">The experiment</h2>
<p style="text-align: left;">So, after we learned this, I decided to decrease the cyanuric acid level in the pools gradually to see if it is really needed.  The pool engineers told me “if you do that there will be no free chlorine in this pool in the morning.” We agreed to decrease cyanuric acid by 10 ppm each week and monitor the results.  The free chlorine levels never decreased and the combined chlorine remained at 0.  We decreased the cyanuric acid to zero and never added any more for the rest of the summer.  The levels slowly decreased to zero as makeup water diluted out the cyanuric acid.  The children’s activity pool behaved exactly the same.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">In another pool we treated we were able to manage the large pool all summer without any cyanuric acid and maintained free chlorine levels from 1-3 ppm with no combined chlorine all summer.</p>
<h2 style="text-align: left;">Water treated with moss doesn&#8217;t need cyanuric acid</h2>
<p style="text-align: left;">The bottom line is that with moss treated water, cyanuric acid is not needed.  The mechanism for this probably centers around biofilm.  I don’t think that cyanuric acid prevents chlorine from UV degradation or the free chlorine levels would have decreased in the outdoor pools we treated.  We know the moss inhibits biofilm formation in the laboratory and know that biofilm absorbs chlorine.  We know that free chlorine levels skyrocket when moss is added to the pool and to maintain a level of 1-3 ppm free chlorine, the chlorine added to the pool decreases by over half.  So a pool with moss doesn’t need cyanuric acid.  That allows the chlorine added to the pool to remain active providing effective microbial control.</p>
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		<title>CWS Wades into Commercial Pool and Spa Waters</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[My name is Allan Schwartz and I have been working in the pool and spa industry for the past five plus years. The majority of this time has been spent focused on the residential part of this channel with Creative Water Solutions. Eau de Chlorine? Late this April, I was out to dinner with some [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My name is Allan Schwartz and I have been working in the pool and spa industry for the past five plus years. The majority of this time has been spent focused on the residential part of this channel with Creative Water Solutions.</p>
<h2>Eau de Chlorine?</h2>
<p>Late this April, I was out to dinner with some close friends, Michael and Suzie S. We were talking about working out at the Minneapolis <a title="Sabes Jewish Community Center" href="http://www.sabesjcc.org/" target="_blank">Jewish Community Center </a> where both of our families belong.</p>
<div id="attachment_123" class="wp-caption alignright" style="width: 190px"><a href="http://www.cwsnaturally.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/chlorine-is-my-perfume1.jpg"><img class="size-full wp-image-123" style="margin: 10px;" title="chlorine-is-my-perfume1" src="http://www.cwsnaturally.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/chlorine-is-my-perfume1.jpg" alt="(&quot;Chlorine is my perfume&quot;) - this isn't the way it has to be for swimmers" width="180" height="161" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">&quot;Chlorine is my perfume&quot; - this isn&#39;t how it has to be for swimmers!</p></div>
<p>Michael was talking about how much he enjoys swimming now that he can&#8217;t run anymore because of his failing knees. He goes multiple times per week. Suzie stated at that point that she can always tell the days he has been swimming because in spite of showering after his swim, he still smells like chlorine and she doesn&#8217;t like to be around him.</p>
<p>Michael then asked me &#8220;why don&#8217;t you talk to the JCC about using your PoolNaturally® system for their pools&#8221;. Michael reminded me about the positive feedback I have been telling him about from our residential pool and spa customers. As it turns out, my company had been talking about beginning to expand into the commercial pool and spa segment of this industry.</p>
<h2>A Natural Partnership</h2>
<p>The JCC was very interested and were an excellent candidate because they have six different types of water bodies. They have a men&#8217;s and women&#8217;s spa, an indoor and outdoor wading pool, as well as large indoor and outdoor pools. The JCC started in May with their men&#8217;s spa which was the most troublesome area. Then the outdoor wading and swimming pools were added. Almost immediately, the bathers were approaching the lifeguards to inquire about what they were doing differently with the water. The changes were dramatic.  Becky, the lifeguard supervisor recently commented on how much more enjoyable the pool water is considering how much of their working day is spent in the water.</p>
<p><a href="http://blog.cwsnaturally.com/wp-content/uploads/jcc-outdoor-wading-pool-1001.jpg"><img class="size-medium wp-image-126 alignleft" style="margin-left: 10px; margin-right: 10px;" title="Outdoor Wading Pool" src="http://blog.cwsnaturally.com/wp-content/uploads/jcc-outdoor-wading-pool-1001.jpg" alt="" width="100" height="100" /></a>Jon S, the Certified Pool Operator and maintenance supervisor, told me that while he was originally very excited to try our PoolNaturally and SpaNaturally systems. If he hadn&#8217;t been so involved with the changes he wouldn&#8217;t have believed them. The results have exceeded his expectations.  Ironically, because of mechanical issues with the indoor lap pool, it will be the last pool to go on our PoolNaturally system. Michael S, who suggested the whole idea, swims in the indoor pool and has been anxiously waiting to swim and not smell like he is using chlorine as an after shave.</p>
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